Knowing Robby Westbrook personally as I do this isn't pathetic at all. Actually very direct and to the point of his true feelings concerning David Waters.

Amen Robby! A lot of us out here agree 100% with what you said!

lol

He pays for the ad space.

David pays for the ad space. He doesn't support the stories posted.

He pays for the ad space like anyone else can.

Let us not be angry or hateful please. I am sure Westbrook has done a good job. However, I do think he is acting immature by saying he wants nothing to do with the "Waters supporters". What does that mean? How judgmental can you be? That is not professional, but I do not hate him!

Robby, I am the man that was singled out at the first Sheriff's debate because I had decided to support David Waters, a long time co-worker and friend, and apparently Garrison thought I should not have been allowed to do so. With that said, I have never heard anything bad about you and was looking forward to working with you in the years to come, so your statements make me believe that you are doing the right thing in retiring when David Waters wins this election. David and his command wish to work with all factions in and about Cherokee County for the betterment of ALL citizens and employees, so I applaud your right to retire. You deserve it and good luck in any future endeavors.
D.T.Smith

You can't take back what you say. Which is it Westbrook- "I want nothing to do with the people who are supporting Mr. Waters and I will not be associated with them at any time. Period." or "I have no problem with anyone who votes anyway they see fit." You can't have your cake and eat it too. Maybe when you retire, you should go into politics.

Amen Ray....but let's try to reason with them on their level > youuuze folks is da same ones dat post over and over gin for waters on every post in every blog hear. you is hard to read cuzz u aint able to spell words right or cammplete a sentence.but u is easy to figare out likes Ray saiys above it is just the same 3 or 4 or 5 sayin da sme thing. so arugue youze points over and over and over again but dem 3 or 4 or 5 votes aint gonna hlep mr waters.

Sorry Ray didn't mean to hi-jack your post but the same rhetoric does get old when it comes from the exact same people in every blog or post. They certainly do not care for anyones opinions. For the record you are right Tina "these people are citizens" but not necessarily of Cherokee County. But none the less they are citizens. Go back and check every single political post on any of the Cherokee Patch pages and you will see the same exact ones immediately start their nasty tirades the second anyone posts anything about the current Sheriff. So I guess us other "citizens" should just sit back and take those nasty hillbilly comments in stride because it is just politics? Finally I agree with Ray "These people and their attitudes are the one of the main reasons I will NOT be voting for David Waters and these people are a great indication of this man". AMEN RAY!!!

To J C Smith
I don't care who you're voting for....that's still hilarious! Good job!! :)

J C Smith, you forget to include the following phrases " bully" "untrained" "unprofessional" and "change".

Oh and "good ole boy". That's always a classic.

oh and how can I forget "arrogance".

Really?? You're basing your vote on supporter's opinions? Maybe this would be a great time to throw out one of Roger's favorite lines- "we should focus on the issues".

JC that was pretty funny. I think its also funny that I have not chosen to support either candidate and the only ones who "go postal" on me when I question where to find facts are David Waters supporters. As I said in previous postings they are pushing me in the direction to vote for Sheriff Garrison. It's a bit disconcerting that it seems like some of David Waters more obnoxious supporters seem to think they are going to hold positions of authority in this county.

He is entitled but at the same time when you make something like that public, you make it open for public scrutiny.

What is this mirror people keep talking about? Is it a feature on here?

Very well stated!!

Some of them are mad because their calls to the Sheriff to get out of a ticket or an arrest did not yield fruit as it were. Because he's a bully don't you know....

Tina, please reread my post. No where in it did I say that no one in Cherokee County was supporting David Waters. I am sure he has quite a few but we will have to wait until the results are in to know for sure how many. I stated that some of his supporters are living outside the county, meaning they have no say in the voting in this county, and are posting comments that just stir the pot. He does not need that kind of support IMO.

Actually while I find David Waters to appear more friendly in the print ( I have yet to meet him in person) than I did Sheriff Garrison I have met Sheriff Garrison in person and he was very warm and friendly. I think he appears more stern than what he is?

Justice for Andrew Messina , I am sure has thoroughly researched what is and is not proper negotiations tactics to be able to point fingers at a team which has lots of experience in negotiations as well as documented hours and hours of training? I am sure they can rationalize how a negotiatior who has years of work in the mental health field before going into law enforcement is untrained.

I am sure they have consulted experts from the FBI HNT, or even Cobb or the surrounding agencies and presented them the unbiased facts of what transpired to wit they said it was a botched operation.

You have done all this right? You have actually studied case studies of real negotiations so you can with some degree of authority make a determination other then based on emotion that the Cherokee HNT team erred.

Surely you have done this?

Actually when I last checked the Justice for Andrew Messina facebook you were ripping apart the sniper.

Again...you clearly know more about tactics and proper procedure having carefully studied this field and talked with other teams around the area to be able to make a statement like that. Unless of course you are just spouting from emotion and total lack of facts and understanding.

Call the Cobb HNT. Ask them. Call the Pickens, Fulton and any other teams in the area. Ask them. Give them GBI report. I'd be interested to see what people who actually know what they are talking about and have experience to back it up, say.

But then again...I am interested in the truth. Then again, I am not looking to blame someone for an agenda. Then again, I would not condemn an agency without at least researching something before declaring an action an error solely because the end was not what I wanted ( and guess what it's not what they wanted either).

Because if your definition of what is and is not an effective team or program is 100% success in achieving the end result. Please...enlighten us on what teams or programs have met that requirement.

Seems to me not being intoxicated,scaring your mom enough to call 911,and pointing a gun at police would the FIRST thing that would have prevented it. WHY,WHY,WHY do people want to blame somebody else for their screwup!!!!!!!

And again. You have nothing to back that statement up with. Very telling. Facts > Emotions.

Hard to advocate something when you are actually being challenged on it. You might actually have to stand up and go beyond talking points and emotion.

Again......if he hadnt been pointing a gun he would be alive.

Mary- I agree and I do KNOW about hostage training and tactics. There was no reason for the Hostage Negotiators to go to the door. There was no threat to anyone except himself. Again- time was on their side. Negotiations have gone for hours before contact is required. Messina had requested the police leave him alone. And if they had, he may still be alive. It's not Yarbrough's fault, it's the policy's fault and the policy needs to revised to prevent this from happening again.

Oh really CoC? And just what policy are you referring too?

I hate when people won't disclose their sources. That makes the information useless like you got it from Wikipedia.

@Kary Sky - our sources will be disclosed, when we are ready. So patience dear.

I hope it is before the election. People have already been voting.

You are certainly defensive. I said in my first post that I was not here to argue this case with you. Neither will I disclose any sources, agencies, etc... that we have contacted. And I could ask you the same question - just so I am clear: When these agencies do NOT clear the Cherokee HNT is YOUR organization going to acknowledge that?

And one more thing SIR. You are forgetting that there is a family who is STILL grieving the death of their ONLY son. THEY READ THESE blogs. I have given Jason Yarborough consideration and empathy. You have had none for the Messina's whatsoever. None. Shame on you for not even acknowledging their pain and grief.

Wait a minute the GBI didn't clear Cherokee HNT?

And I am sorry 12Know but Justice for Andrew Messina has not given the sniper consideration and if you have never had to killed any you can not have empathy for his position you can be sympathetic. I read some of the horrible things posted on the Justice for Andrew Messina website about the sniper and it completely counters what you are saying.

@Kary Sky, nice to know you are reading our page, thank you.

I personally think everyone should leave the sniper and the Messina's out of this.

Wahrheit-Teller your comments are becoming hateful. Please stop--get out and get a fresh breath of air.

And just what makes her "a desperate radical"?

I cant imagine anything worse than losing a child,but can you not say that he made those decisions himself. at some point dont you have to be responsible for what you do. no teenager that i know,and there are a bunch of them,made a choice to point a gun at anyone and they are ALL still with us.

Sensible is a great word. From what I've read and from what the 911 tape said, alcohol was involved and he was off his meds. Therefore, who is to say he was sensible?? It's not Garrison's fault or Yarbrough's or HNT. It's the policy's fault. And I would have a higher respect for Garrison if he would simply say there needs to be additional training in this area or policy changes pertaining to people in these circumstances instead of saying nothing went wrong and he thinks it was handled as best as it could be.

And again...you assume things would have been differently with more training. As if there is some magical book out there that details exactly what to do in a x situation every time. Well, I heard a great quote about that magical book, ":just because you've read the book doesn't mean they have". You talk about the policy? Just what policy are you talking about?

Not sure what you are wowing. Wish the forum had better direct quote options.

Danke.

Apparently Cindy, you either have not really researched the case or you just choose to ignore the facts for political gains.

Let me enlighten you through the power of Google.
1) You keep insisting that there was no mental professionals there at the scene and that the HNT people are not trained to deal with people in crisis. The newspaper articles reporting on the story and even more so following the GBI released report, clearly state that Sgt.Westbrook is a trained mental health professional. Oh look, it appears he also is in charge of training the CIT class for the agency and other agencies across the state! In fact he was one of the first people in the state who received the training on the matter.
http://www.cherokeega-sheriff.org/archive/2011/051011.html
http://cherokeetribune.com/view/full_story/13343436/article-Cooperative-effort-helps-authorities-to-deal-with-crises

What is CIT?
http://gbi.georgia.gov/00/channel_modifieddate/0,2096,67862954_88554454,00.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbwJP_w8avQ

See that pin they show in the video, you see any officer with that pin on their uniform it means they have been through that class. That's how I learned about it. I saw my neighbor with that pin on and I asked him what it meant.

So now we know what CIT is which training for dealing with people in crisis due to mental illness or stress in general.

2) You say more training needs to be done. Well the HNT apparently are required to have that training already. Which is a fact easily found right here.
http://www.cherokeega-sheriff.org/HNT.html

3) Now, these are very simple facts, easy to find yet you appear to ignore them. Why is that? You say you " Justice for Andrew Messina has nothing to do with the election". I am sorry, I would be more inclined to believe that if it was not for the giant Vote for Waters banner on your facebook page.

In summation, you say things would have been different with a trained mental health professional / counselor present. Well, clearly there was one there with a history of working in the mental health profession there, doing the negotiations. And, as I easily found out through google and Bing, all the team members are trained in CIT.

These are facts easily found. It was not time consuming and was rather easy when you knew what to look for.

Ok truth teller thank you for the information, though I have not gotten to check the links out yet. You seem to be very intelligent, organized and well spoken. That being said you should probably not call someone a coward for fighting the word battle with a lack of facts. Though I do appreciate the information be nice.

Kary, the coward comment was directed at their attempt to silence me by throwing up the families pain as reason not to question their position or talk about the actual incident. Perhaps it was harsh but I don't react well to intellectually dishonest individuals using low tactics to stifle debate.

Those links truth teller provided by truth teller were interesting. But what I wonder is what is the difference between "CIT" and the people who were at the front door of that house? Ive heard it said on other posts that the person at the front door was a counselor? Is that true? What no one has said is if the family ever called for help before? Was this a situation where police knew Andrew? Where can I find a copy of the GBI report? It is allegedly several hundred pages.

It's 2000 pages from the media says. They had to file a FOI request. I can't find a copy of it myself.

autocorrect? It's a pain, I know.

Wow...this is an incredibly old video. I believed it was even brought up during Garrison's last election cycle. While you are at it, why don't you hype of the video of that gay guy talking about how he was harassed in the Cherokee County jail too? I would advise not posting it here though as it is very vulgar.

Roger, old or not - you have been in office too long if you can't just stand up and make a difference in some of your policies!! You understand the links are just witness to reality! So you also stated you now have a licensed psychologist on the force, right? And he was at the Messina house on May 1st?

I'm not sure what that video was about?

This video shows the removal of Political Trackers from a public campaign event. Political Trackers are employed by both parties to simply record opposing candidates when they are speaking in public forums (in hopes that the candidate will have a "slip up" that can be used against them).....It is a perfectly legal practice that is employed by both major political parties. It can be illegal to do if the political function is being held privately or if the tracker in any way tries to influence the mood of the function - such as verbally opposing the candidate, questioning them, etc. The Trackers job is to simply silently record. It appears from this video and from a few others at the same event that Senator Chambliss' staff requested that the trackers be removed and the sheriff's office obliged. These Trackers were simply doing their job at a public function, which. It appears they they were removed for no other reason except that they were employed by the Democratic Party of Georgia. The Sheriff instructed his officers to simply "talk to them" which resulted in them being impeded to preform their job. Now, I cannot say that the Sheriff was fully aware of what the trackers were doing or who they were - and clearly the officers who escorted them away from their original position were simply following orders. On a small scale this is political-bias dictating the course of law enforcement. The Sheriff's Office was duped by the Senator's office on this day.

@Kerry - I have seen your video and I am so sorry for all the trouble that Sheriff Garrison caused you and your family. I hope you are managing to move beyond the incredible financial chaos that was brought into your life.

Gary Vaughn is a good man, i agree.

They work for the board of education right?

Teenagers can't even ride bikes, skateboards or anything we used to do!

What a cop shot candy out of a kids hand?

I wish I was getting paid. Coming up with actual arguments as opposed to cut and paste talking points is tough.

And you apparently didn't listen to his reasons for being re-elected in the debate. I am not going to do your homework for you. Go back and listen again.

As for saving baby lives personally. I am sorry, he can't don a cape and fly around town like Superman Waters personally saving lives all the time. You got us there. Good for you.

As for molding teenagers lives, well my initial reaction would be to point to the Explorer program . Other then that look at his charity group. But honestly, it's not law enforcement's job to raise your kids for you. If you want some one to be their daddy when their really daddies aren't doing their job, I guess Roger Garrison isn't the man for it. If that's the type of sheriffs office Waters would bring to the community, then lord have mercy on Cherokee County if he won.

And on a side note, if your kids are scared of law enforcement, there's probably a reason for that and it's does not reflect well on them. You go tell the homeowners in Bridgemill and Eagle Watch who are tired of the thugs running around causing property damage and committing thefts how the sheriffs office will be so much kinder and understanding of these poor misguided youths under Waters. See how that flies.

Wahrheit-Teller you are funny! I guess if there were more men like you around - our kids wouldn't need quality law enforcement in the first place, right? It starts with the people they look up to! Roger Garrison is on the news making excessive excuses as to how things could have been done differently but never saying how he was going to make changes! Who are you mr. teller?? Your candor is much like I've witnessed in the media making excuses! PS: Cut and past your positive stories in the news about anything personable or favorable as opposed to killing people and letting little girls be raped and murdered! What was the EXACT time Jorelys Rivera died??? Not the "likely" time! I won't cut and paste that - you bring that to the table Mr. Garrison - I mean Teller!

And just where am I making excuses? Try harder next time. And if your only come back is to accuse me of being the sheriff. You just lost the debate.

Thank you and have nice day.

I thought that little girl was killed in City of Canton and thats why Jeff Lance quit?

Did you by chance see my post on the other article comment as to how I first came to know Mr. Waters? Yes, I have come to know the advocates for the Messina's, actually due to an invitation to the block party they sponsored for him. Mr. Water's may not have the campaign funds that Mr. Garrison has somehow gathered; but I will tell you that I have seen a man with, not only the education and experience in law enforcement; but a heart and soul full of passion to exceed any of our local challenges.

How I came to know the Waters family:
I sent an email to both Roger Garrison and David Waters. I questioned them as to how they would change policy and procedures to protect the victims of Domestic Violence in the future. I pointed out what my family had been through and how I had begged Mr. Moss, Mr. Garrison and others to help me and my children. After all, I'd earned in excess of $200k and paid astronomical taxes to earn that right prior to meeting my abusive husband!

Mr. Garrison didn't even bother emailing me back! Mr. Waters actually took the time to call and tell me his story. I've been honored to meet Mr. Waters and his wife Brenda and I have to tell you - their passion is for the "people" and its obvious!

They also support policy and procedural changes in family disputes - as with the Messina family! Mr. Garrison just pushes it under the rug and hasn't offered any resolution to policies and proceedures!
https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/justice-for-andrew-messina-policy-procedure-change-to-protect-juveniles-from-deadly-force-by-law-enforcement

What exactly leads you to believe this?

Thanks for the info - had not heard any of the others mentioned by his campaign workers as having been anywhere else. It just seemed odd that EW was the only one mentioned.

I don't see where they had anything bad to say about the Sheriff in the article Terri.

Kary sky you sound like a public service announcement. oh my gosh, laughing, that is preposterous

Kary, the officer gave you a pamphlet??? I didnt get that! The officer told me to "get a job" and asked me why I didn't throw my husbands steroid vials and open needles in the garbage instead of calling them to pick them up! And you got a pamphlet???

Kary, my head is still spinning with the fact that you received a pamphlet!! PLEASE URGE SHERIFF GARRISON TO PRINT SOME OF THOSE PAMPHLETS AND GIVE THEM TO FV Victims!! Immediately! You can view my story on youtube video - "Domestic Violence Victims Plea for National Assistance". The President stepped in and helped us. CFVC had little resources and referred me to the Forsyth County Shelter in the end - where dv victims aren't called midgets or spit on or laughed out by deputies! I can't even talk about all that we went through - its behind me now but I owned my own home in Eagle Watch before falling prey! I ran his company for 4 years and when I couldn't take the abuse anymore - I was left to fend for myself - not even a pamphlet from a single officer............upsets me to think about it! I just want to know how Sheriff Garrison plans to handle these situations better in the future. Pamphlets would be a good start!

Mr. Garrison not responding to my email, giving him an opportunity to respond to my concerns (also copied to Mr. Waters); well, that was really another slap in the face to victims of domestic violence in Cherokee County. He still hasn't responded, personally.

Mr. Waters, not only called me, but he and his wife welcomed me with open arms and discussed how his sister was shot in the chest by her husband. He may not be able to save her life, or change my experience, as sheriff; but, his heart is where it needs to be! Ironic that I sent that email, huh? Ironic, I gave Mr. Garrison more than a few chances to answer, even here! :(

Well Kary, I love Meg and everyone at the CFVC, I promise they are incredible! The problem is....they can NOT enforce those TPO orders! The Cherokee County Sheriff's Department has to do that!

I thought the petition was posted with permission.

The petition was taken down at the request of Lisa Messina. She does read these blogs and she was overwhelmed by the negative comments, so as an act of kindness it was taken down by the poster.

I think its weird that the petition was removed. Isn't it a public petition?

A private petition posted publicly. There's nothing wrong with taking it down if they so choose. I think the allegation stems from some people thinking a poster named as BO was thought to be David Waters( based on what I ask?) and the allegation is it was taken down because of that.

That's kind of flimsy. But then again,I don't know what all was written on the page before it was taken down.

It isn't weird at all, can you not read Kary Sky? Did you not see my post? The petition was posted by a reader, not by the patch. The petition is public, but it is moderated, and can only have comments left if it is signed. Therefore, none of the hateful, insinuating comments are found on the public petition as they are here.

Yes 12Know I can read. Thank you for continuously belittling me.

And there it goes. Further proof we dealing with an intellectual midget. When you can put your grown up pants on and actually debate, I will be more then happy to do so.

Now, you're calling me a midget??? Please! Stop namecalling and give us something good to talk about!

I am sorry. Maybe I need to use your code words and cut n paste talking points so it won't be hateful rants in your eyes.

here we go....bullying...change...good ole boys network. untrained.

How's that?

Maybe instead of deflection you actually address my points. I know, you might actually have to put down the talking points and think.

When you can step up with the grown ups, I'll be more then happy to have a conversation with ya.

I'll debate this issue as much as I want. The only person closing this discussion will be the editors of this website ( to which I admit, this gotten waaaay off topic from the original post).

You don't like being challenged on your points then don't bring them up. If you can't handle a debate based on facts and logic, that's something you have to deal with on your own.

Again, I am perfectly fine having a discussion with people who bring facts and logic to the table. Those tend to stand up pretty well. If your foundation is based on ignorance of a subject matter and emotional outrage only, well...we have seen what happens.

Deflection, accusations, throwing the race card down( wow...just...wow) among other things.

I sat by for months reading some of these comments on here and I was just floored and finally I said enough. Enough talking points. Let's talk facts. Let's talk logic. Too many on here believe their position is unquestionable and can not be challenged. Well, there is very little in this world which can not be up for debate.

If you want to stick with your echo chamber, Davids Waters for Sheriffs Facebook page is always open.

If you want to see if your positions are solid and can stand up to scrutiny, I am your guy. I think we all know were you stand on this Mary K.

W/T - When there is someone who has an always right attitude, what point is there in debating anything? I'm actually quite happy you are here because you sir are giving Roger Garrison & Company a bad name. So, thank you. Keep your tirades, insults, and name calling coming......

Again, you can't argue the facts. Just admit it. You have no footing whatsoever to go pointing fingers at anyone. And needless to say, I think the readers here outside of your echo chamber, clearly see which side is coming from a factual and intellectual argument and which side is not.

Here's a hint. It's the one not having to throw down innuendos and deflect actual points of contention. Pssst...it's not you.

Bravo! the psssssst it isn't you comment, BRAVO! exactly what I want to hear... continue sir.

Mary though he is being aggressive he does have a valid point. I know people have feelings about their chosen candidates but there are those of us up in the air who would like facts. I understand both you and truth teller have strong feelings for your candidates but I don't I want to know factually why you think I should choose one or the other. Truth Teller take your calm pills I am having a hard time following your rants.

Don't fall for Kary Sky's BS... she/he has clearly stated they are a Garrison supporter on other posts ....

kary, I am done for the evening. When and if they actually try trotting out their agenda again, I will be there to challenge them. Till then.
TTFN

Actually 12Know I have never supported either candidate. I have said that the behavior of David Waters supporters is pushing me towards Sheriff Garrison. But I guess you can say what you want on here whether it is true or not.

Absolutely Randy, plain and simple, with everything aside, there should be term limits for every publicly held office, period. It is time for new Leadership in Cherokee.

All day? Really? I get home from my trip around 7pm and that's all day?
Intimidation tactics= pointing out facts and questioning your positions?

Just admit it. Your whole platform is built on false notions and emotional outrage. You've been reading Saul Alinsky? Because you are starting to pull a page from his book it seems. It's tough being challenged outside of your echo chamber isn't it?

Keep 'em coming W/T.... I'm just gonna watch as you further poison this community against Garrison with your typical always right attitude, so keep the posts coming. I like it, I do.

I refuse to allow you to antagonize me, which is what you are attempting. That's not what I'm about, but I can sure hear your blood pressure rising from here.

Antagonize? You mean expose you as a fraud right? Because clearly you can't handle the fact I bring up serious points and can actually back my stuff up. You can't. Every time I see you guys make this broad ranging ad hominy attacks based on falsehoods, I will challenge it. With facts and logic. Something you can't handle outside of the echo chamber.

The thing about an always right attitude, it seems to tick off an always wrong person. If I am wrong. PROVE IT. In fact, I really have not stated that many things as fact. I have asked QUESTIONS challenging your position. So, am I know an always right questioner now? How much more can you deflect before actually answering my salient points?

Echo Chamber: Definition - Roger Garrisons Sheriff's office. And I am sorry to disappoint you, but I am completely confident in my views and opinions. I CHOOSE to not debate you, since there is no point, with an always right attitude.

He simply believes if you are a woman, child, black or hispanic you should keep your mouth shut! Isn't that right Wahrson?

So confident that you don't debate me. You can't even answer simple questions. If you are so confident that you know what you are talking about, prove it. I can. I am not afraid.
I can back my stuff up and put it out there for all the readers to judge on their own. I am not afraid to do that. You seem to be. Why is that? In all honesty, all I have done is ask questions. Why can't your group stand up and answer them?

In fact, where have I made a statement of fact in contradiction to your group? I know I have asked questions as to what steps you have taken to actually educate yourself on matters you claim to have researched. Why are you so afraid of answering those questions?

Oh my god, BO? Still looking for BO? The last thing David Waters has time for right now is taking one to two hours to blog under a fake name. I promise, he has better things to do.

@12know, that's it? That's all it takes to say someone is David Waters? Come on guys and gals. Stick to the facts please. I am going to go out on a limb and say David Waters is probably busy right now and not sitting around on computer. He has his facebook page to get his personal message if so chooses.

I saying there is no conspiracy here. Just my two cents. I am out.

@Change For Canton. I heard this audio clip on the radio on my way home today. Then I saw your gem of input. This fits so perfectly. http://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0

3?? That's all you could find? Check Milton, Johns Creek, Alpharetta, Cartersville, Marietta, and Cobb. You'll find more than 3. No one wants to work for a department where brass (Sergents or above) walk in and ask you how it's going and if you don't say it's great, they report you to the Sheriff as being bad for moral. If you don't agree with everything or have a suggestion of how things could be handled better, your on the radar. Where's the teamwork in that???

Oh yes, and Shannon DID have a TPO and multiple 911 reports - just like my case! Enforcement was a problem! In Forsyth, the man would have been arrested for threats to his wife! In Cherokee, an officer comes out - looks at your phone and writes it down so you can go hire an attorney and wait for a court date for Contempt! Want me to get her sister and father on here to talk about this too??? We need policies & proceedures and accountability to meet State Laws!

And understand - if you think I am ranting and raving about this now - I begged for enforcement of the TPO! Shannon, may she rest in peace, also begged for enforcement! She may have been killed in Milton but she and her babies (who watched him shoot her in the face and neck) were citizens of Cherokee County Georgia! Another less woman for our Sheriff to concern his staff with -that is until election time!

That's City of Canton Police Terri. They had a lot of controversy over that little girl getting murdered last December.

Kary, you either just don't get it or you're Wahlrson's wife. Bottom line, it IS CHEROKEE COUNTY when it comes to Child Endangerment or Domestic Violence issues! Are the officer's equipt with "pamphlets"?? Of course not! And, the TPOs in Cherokee are simply pieces of paper - less value than your used toilet paper! Wahlrson would say "just one less future juvenile delinquent and one less TPO violation to report".

I guess I don't get it. I thought City of Canton Police was separate from the Sheriff? I don't even know who Wahlrson is? I did receive a family violence pamphlet from a police officer in Cherokee County. The family violence center helped me get a protective order.

If Minnie wanted to obtain a TPO where would she go to obtain that Kary? Wahlr-Teller is who I call Walhrson! He's made it clear that women, children, African Americans, Latinos and midgets should speak unless spoken to in this county!

Was it the Canton courthouse? Oh, I didn't know Canton had a separate courthouse from Cherokee County? Of course, I didn't know about some "pamphlet" either! Maybe its because I'm a midget or because I have redhair?? Who knows....

And, Kary, how did you keep your TPO enforced? Or were you not married to a crazy ass on steroids with a gun??

LOL i meant emplore

He and a friend had been watching the movie Blazing Saddles and decided to make Halloween costumes based on a scene in that movie. White sheets, poster board and a permanent marker later this is was the result. He was 21 years old at the time and it was worn to a private Halloween party. As you can tell I guess, is has been blown way out of proportion by one of his opponents supporters who has been posting it on every political website on the WWW for whatever reason.

Obviously not if you are a sex offender or armed robber. They were locking them up left and right last week.
Really though it might be the same person going around saying size doesn't matter.

CC we talked about that on another topic like two weeks ago.

LOL I think the poeple that make the KKK robes would be very offended by your saying the logo was official. If you cannot tell it has been drawn on the costume then you may need to have an eye exam.

Actually he would have worn it in the mid to late's 80's and the civil rights movement is considered to have peaked much earlier than that. Though I don't condone it. And I think you mean Hosea Williams who did march through Forsyth County in 1987.

That link had nothing to do with a mortuary in Canton?

Google it yourself! I'm really freaking sick! Just sick! Your kids are even burning crosses in Canton?????? Really???? I bet they aren't in jail, are they???

I did google it and I could not find anything but the ACLU representing the KKK in their bid to adopt the highway.

Who's kids?
What are you talking about?
I haven't read or heard anything about anyone burning a cross in Canton in years?
That article was from Union County?

Maybe she took communion this morning? What an intriguing internet meltdown. I could almost imagine her running around her house locking the doors and windows then furtively peeking out the blinds. Maybe she will come back and clarify what is going on with her posts.

She is no longer Terri Arnold she is now Cherokee Citizen. What is up with everyone changing their names on here?

Has David Waters offered you a high ranking job if he is elected? The Patch has not posted the entire story - Robby went on to say that he did not have a problem with the supporters of Mr. Waters but he did not want to work with some of the ones Mr. Waters has promised high ranking jobs to should he be elected. Have you been promised one of these high ranking jobs?

Well, straight for the attack huh? Notice I said I'm LEANING? If it is possible to get a high ranking job by talking to someone once I'll take it. Sorry to hear the whole thing did not get reported the first time but if you are in a position of responsibility it might be better not to speak. You WILL get miss quoted.

Point of clarification, JustTheFaxMaam. Patch did post the entire story. After we published the article, and individuals started to comment on this thread, Robby Westbrook offered additional explanation in this space. Refer to the top of the thread for his clarification.

Ok, apology accepted. There is more to this than I read here. I don't know what all you mean "knowing Robby has been through so much recently" but I do recall something about an accident I think. I wish him the best no matter what he chooses.

Thanks Kary Sky 2 for posting that link about Donna's death. Not sure why USAF Patriot did not hear about it since he works under Robby's direction. Maybe he was on vacation when she pased away??

I don't work under Robby. I am a Vol with the team his assistant runs. I did say "I do recall something about an accident" we have contact a few times a year when they call for assistance.

You should try and get off meth!

As previously stated, Robby offered further explanation AFTER our story was live and readers began to flood the site with comments. The story was published at 12:20 p.m. July 12. Responding to readers—not to us—Robby posted a comment on this thread nearly three hours later at 3:03 p.m.