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Letter: 'A Slap in the Face'

Changes to a redistricting plan are "laughable," according to one citizens group.

 

The Cherokee County School District isn't the only entity to express its displeasure with a revised redistricting bill.

Cherokee Citizens for Kids has penned a new letter, the contents of which are below.

Our local delegation (Representatives Byrd, Hamilton, Hill and Jerguson) have drafted new legislation, HB1223, which replaces HB978; however the new legislation is hardly an improvement over the first. Our delegation has made it clear that they will take any steps necessary to remove duly elected School Board members from office who did not vote on issues the way the delegation dictated.  The new School Board map drawn by our delegation is laughable and a slap in the face to our community. 

For example, two posts are split by Lake Allatoona, and one post has absolutely no connecting point to land. Other examples would be the BridgeMill subdivision and the Towne Lake community are both divided between two school board posts. The school attendance zones were not taken into consideration. Some schools could be covered by 3-4 board members.  Under the delegation’s proposal, voters would elect a Board member from one post, and their children attend schools that are mapped into another post.

Our delegation has stated that because the School Board did not unanimously approve their own map (it passed by a vote of 5-2), the task fell to the delegation. There is no law that requires a governing body pass such resolutions unanimously in order for them to be considered by the local delegation. The maps designed by the School Board take into account neighborhoods, school attendance zones and geographical barriers.  They are fair and balanced.  Furthermore, Representative Jerguson has continuously stated throughout the process that the common "principles of redistricting" will be followed. Two of these principles (continuous geographic boundaries and unnecessary pairing of incumbents) are blatantly disregarded in the proposed maps. 

The Cherokee County School District took great care and time to gather input through a variety of meetings and communications. They have proposed a map that is fair, balanced and allows each of the incumbents to remain in his/her post until the next election.  This is the second time that our representatives have disregarded the will of the majority of our citizens, and they place all of the responsibility for the map on Representative Hamilton who does not live in Cherokee County, does not have children in school in Cherokee County and will not run for re-election in Cherokee County because his district has changed.

Please contact your local delegation members and Governor Deal if you are concerned about their actions!

About this column: Canton-Sixes Patch welcomes letters from our readers. Respond to a story. Give your perspective. Critique our site. Let your voice be heard. Related Topics: Canton/Cherokee Government, Cherokee Citizens for the Kids, Cherokee County Board of Commissioners, Cherokee County Board of Education, Cherokee County GA, House Bill 1223, House Bill 978, Redistricting Plan, and Schools

Addie Price

11:45 am on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

If they don’t like it they can always move.

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Mikael R Kient

4:43 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

What is good for the goose... =)

"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

12:02 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

What is "laughable" is that fact that the group "Cherokee Citizens Group for Kids" is actually trying to make it seem like they are truly a community organization working for the betterment of kids, when in reality, all they are is an activist front organization for Dr. P and the CCSD Employees with a "teachers union mindset." It is a "vocal minority" group of a small, handful of disgruntled teachers and CCSD Employees who are lockstep in agreement with the educational bureaucracy of Dr. P, Mike Chapman, Rick Stiner, and Janet Read and who are the minions out doing the dirty work of Dr. P and Mike Chapman, the board chair. The district's own Director of Forecasting and Planning at the various meetings said that the districts would be redrawn not according school attendance lines but along the lines of balancing the population out due to the growth of Cherokee County. The bottomline is that the public can see right through this latest tactic by the BOE. The Cherokee County Delegation is very much aware of the Chicago politics that have been a part of CC for years and is part of the Dr. P regime and is doing all it can to restore the BOE to a BOE truly elected by and representative of the community - not a BOE that can continue to be controlled by the Superintendant and puppet BOE members. The new voting policies will address that piece. The BOE is just throwing darts arguing the maps, etc. because they know no matter what map is utlimately decided upon...(con't below)...

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"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

12:06 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

...Dr. P and the four BOE Members who have been the key puppets are going to lose their seats. They are just trying to make it look like they were "outed" by legislators instead of the voting public who is ready to make the "right decision for real children and the community" by voting these bureucrats out of office, just like Debi Radcliff and Gary Puckett were a few years ago.

And to echo the words of the BOE's very own Chair, Mike Chapman - "If you don't like it, you can MOVE." I suggest Mr. Chapman take his own advice and if he doesn't like his chances in his new post, "HE CAN MOVE." I wonder how well that is going to work :).

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"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

12:39 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

Ashley-with all due respect, you are not a CCSD Teacher but you mentioned several times on this board that your husband is, to include being an athletic coach that was brought in from FL, as has been the impetus of the CCSD leadership as of recent to bring in coaches from FL and TX instead of giving local guys the opportunity many have deserved. I'll now leave that piece alone, but I am certain that the Cherokee Citizens for Kids Group is comprised of adults whose families directly benefit from an employment standpoint from the CCSD-either as a teacher, staff member, BOE Member, etc. Let's be honest and be real about this. If your organization is as true as you say it is, why don't you hold a public grassroots meeting and invite the community to have a dialogue? CCA is a community grassroots initiative that was opened to support the % of children that were not getting their education optimized in the traditional system and has provided the education that is now seeing these children THRIVE. It is a community school that exists as an option for everyone-you can go see for yourself. It serves ALL CHILDREN from all neighborhoods, from all races, and from all walks-to include Special Needs. Based on these facts, if your group was truly "For Kids" as you claim, it should be partnering with CCA instead of trying to squash it, no ??? Since you're trying to squash it, that is why the public can see thru this and know CC4Kids is just another front organization for Dr. P.

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"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

12:41 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

And CP4 Choice has been the grassroots group that has helped fuel the charge for educating the public and bringing a progressive educational option to CC that the CCSD BOE has been lockstep against. Hardly hogwash. CCty is the home field of GA Conservatism. If you want an educational bureaucracy and Democratic Socialism, you can "MOVE" to Cobb, Fulton, or Gwinnett. Your anti-School Choice stance is truly in a minority position and I feel confident that is what will happen come the 2012 BOE Elections.

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"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

2:39 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

(con't from post above..)...This is the Civil Rights battle of this decade and I stand with our delegation in this fight against Dr. P and the current Anti-Choice BOE regime and I stand against anyone who attempts to fight against children getting the education they need when as a country, we spend more than enough $ on education to give them the education they deserve. In taking Dr. P's advice from the AJC article , "The Gloves are Off."

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"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

3:12 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

I voted in BOE Members like Cochran, Geist and Usher and against anyone running against Chapman, Read, Stiner and Wofford whose values where in line with mine. In most all cases the RINO 4 had no one running against them but the tide has most definitely turned come 2012. I also stand with Chip Rogers and Sean Jerguson and believe that School Choice is the way to reform education. Go back and do your homework, on the last time the districts were drawn. You'll find those were gerrymandered to support Dr. P and his current regime. The Delegation is simply righting the previous wrong and ensuring the educational monopoly and Chicago politics of the past decade go the way of the Do-Do bird and we turn Cherokee County back over to the citizens to run their schools in collaborative way between Parents, Teachers, Administration, and the Business Community. Dr. P is an autocrat and he sorely lacks the collaborative leadership to take our Cherokee Schools to the next level. He has shunned and belittled parents - this is why Mike Chapman had the guts to tell parents "If you don't like it, move." He has developed very few, if any major partnerships with the business and local community to be involved in our schools, but rather simply said, "Just send your money to me and we will run this system." The legislators, parents, and business community are fed up with his non-collaborative, high spending, finger pointing approach....con't...below...

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"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

3:17 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

....In times like these we need real leaders who roll up their sleeves and work with everyone, with humility, and make the hard right decisions, and put the children and classroom first. I along with many others have continued to encourage the delegation to ensure we vote post by post and to draw the post lines that ensure a balanced population. We need new BOE Members who are going to stop whining and get out and work with the community to provide a world class education even in a down economy instead of whining about tax revenue and money and crying over spilt milk that can't be put back in the bottle.

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No More Bullies

4:11 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

Real Deal-- here is your homework. I checked a few facts but don't have the time to review all your claims. The School Board in 2001-02, when the current districts were drawn, included NONE of the current board members, not even Read and Chapman. It was Becky Babcock, Kelly Campbell, Mike Christopher, Janet Flint, Fred Larsen, Bob Rogers and Gary Puckett. So much for the "current regime" theory. Mike Chapman soundly beat Danny Dukes (65% to 35%) in 2008, and Janet Read got 59% of the vote over TWO opponents, so there is your homework on "no opposition." The Governor filled in the local funding gap for the 16 charter schools that were approved by the unconstitutional charter school commission (the $10 million he pledged in July and Patch has reported they received) so CCA is receiving about the same funding per student as CCSD, not your "65%", and the Governor has put this same money in the budget for 2012-13. Most charter schools do not provide full services like traditional public schools (transportation, nurses, full spectrum of special ed services), so it is hard to argue they deserve full funding.

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John

5:11 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

This issue is has nothing to do with allowing parents to have a "Choice" in education and everything to do about pitting the community against each other so that our legislators can push policies that fulfill some extremist ideology they are pursuing.(Appears they are achieving that goal) The only ones who will pay for it will be our children who are counting on us to act like adults and do what is in their best interests. I would be curious to know how many conversations our delegation has had with either Dr. P or the BOE regarding what they believe to be the deficiencies with the manner in which the children are getting educated in the county and if they proposed any changes. Until all this, I have not heard a single concern expressed. Why would the legislators not want to engage with the BOE, PTA and the parents to work thru the issues? Makes no sense to me.

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"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

11:34 am on Friday, March 9, 2012

@John-you have obviously been living in a hole for the last three years. This has everything to do with Choice and ensuring our children are NOT enslaved to the educational bureaucracy and autocracy of Dr. P. Just last year, there was a public forum between Chip Rogers and Dr. P regarding education. For those that attended, they were able to witness the professionalism of Chip Rogers in explaining the realities of economics and funding and in showing the many solutions he has proposed. They were also able to see the core of Dr. P-a whining, blaming, mindless economically deficient bureaucrat, as all he did was blame the state for NOT setting up a system to give him $millions of dollars he wants to spend frivolously on education in CCty while taking no responsibility for his failure to work progressively and collaboratively with the legislators and community.The Legislators are constantly engaging all parties. You should climb out of your hole and go down to the Capitol Building sometime and attend the many Education Committee debates. What you will see will be shocking. The Georgia Superintendant's Association, Georgia School Board's Association, GAE, PAGE (two Teacher's Associations that act like unions), The Georgia PTA (yes, can you believe that?) have their lobbyists (the Georgia PTA's is funded by PTA dues that are supposed to be working for "Every Child") who fight against ANY School Choice legislation even if it benefits all children for the sole reason of control.

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"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

11:50 am on Friday, March 9, 2012

Thanks Ashley. Glad to see you have finally admitted the truth, which is that I am a true advocate for education and that you and the Cherokee Citizens for Kids are for fighting to impose your beliefs in a one educational system vs. what is right for every child. It is not belittling, it is the truth.... Your group operates alot like Obama. When he doesn't get his Socialist way he blames Bush, creates lies about Republicans, tries to tell the public he cares about them when all he cares about is creating a Marxist society that HE CONTROLS. Just like he told Israel to "wait" to attack Iran until after his election. Pretty telling. The guy has enough gumption to tell a country ready to be attacked by an evil terrorist empire that his election is more important then the safety of millions of Israelites. It is the same mindset many on this blog have. The "System" is more important than providing every child the education they need. 250 Teachers said that very phrase to children who were suffering in CCSD, and that is the shame of our county. The real "bullies" in this fight are the teachers and CCSD Employees who wore black and denounced the children.

Mikael R Kient

5:16 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

The choice will force the antiquated traditional school system to adapt and over come or face closing. I think that is the reason behind the push. IT is good for the kids they are benefiting state wide from the charters existence.

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Mother of 2

5:18 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

OMG I cannot believe that as adults many of you are on EVERY article the Patch puts out fighting like small children. No matter what side you're on, you're all acting ridiculous and should be embarrassed! Maybe what you're saying is true, some of it anyway, but it is all laced with hatred and seething comments towards one another. If I were you I'd be hanging and shaking my head...walk away people, there are BLOGS for this. This is a news site, can we let the people read the articles in peace?? Good gracious!!!!

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For Kids

8:06 pm on Thursday, March 8, 2012

Amen, 'Mother of 2', amen. 'Ashley', do not let 'Real Deal' bait you. He's just a bully who likes to pontificate and hear himself roar whether it's accurate or not. I would stay away from 'Mikael R Kient' - he's creepy in my opinion. I'd personally like to thank 'John' for hitting the nail on the head. "The only ones who will pay for it will be our children who are counting on us to act like adults and do what is in their best interests." THAT'S what Cherokee Citizens for the Kids is all about without all the other propaganda that's being put out. All the rest of what I scanned on here is absolute drivel.

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"The Real Deal" Education Advocate

11:38 am on Friday, March 9, 2012

@For Kids - you must live in the same hole as John. The only "drivel" on here is the Dr. P activist propaganda being espoused by the "FRONT" organization for Dr. P, Cherokee Citizens for Kids. Read my post back to John and you will see why all John hit on the head was himself. Cherokee Citizens for Kids is comprised of a small group of teachers and teacher spouses, and other CCSD Staff and Employees and their spouses, who are the same folks who wore black to the Charter Vote last summer. Cherokee Citizens for Kids should be renamed, "Cherokee Front Organization of CCSD Employees out Posing as concerned Citizens who really ONLY Care About Their Personal Agenda and Preserving the Educational Public School Monopoly over Real Progress and Putting the Children First.

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Holly J

3:05 pm on Friday, March 9, 2012

"Cherokee Citizens for Kids is comprised of a small group of teachers and teacher spouses, and other CCSD Staff and Employees and their spouses"- once again, using false statements. I am not a teacher and I am a member of CCFTK, and I can think of at least 3 others right off the top of my heard, who I know personally, who ARE NOT in any of the above mentioned categories. Not a huge number, I'll grant you, but I'll bet my house the 4 of us aren't the only non-CCSD employees in the group. Just because we support the public schools does not mean we must be paid staff of the system. And I'd like to know just exactly what perks and CCSD employee, Dr. P and the BOE are getting by "preserving the monopoly." I'm fairly certain they aren't getting rich. And I don't know about you, but I wouldn't stay in a job that subjected me to the personal attacks and frustrations that come with Dr. P's job or being a BOE member. So, aside from working to help improve education for our kids, why else do they do it? It's not like a legislator who, while enduring similar attacks, gets to line his or her pockets with lobbyists' money and enjoy nice trips. Nobody goes into education at any level to get rich or build an "empire."

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