"Embarrasing" Council Meeting Had "Lies," Foul Language
Disagreements between the Mayor and City Council over the fire consolidation plan may have carried over into the Etowah River Park project.
Thursday evening's meeting of the Canton City Council sought to put at rest two issues plaguing the board for months, but only aggravated tensions and even caused new tension between some council members.
"I am embarrassed by Thursday's proceeding and to think that the council has to go through what is has to go through to accomplish for our citizens in this city," said Councilman John Beresford.
The evening began with the city council voting on whether or not to override mayoral vetoes on some of the most controversial topics being discussed at City Hall currently and ended with one city councilman allegedly insulting the mayor.
Mayoral Staff Targets of Cuts
On Dec. 30, Mayor Gene Hobgood had vetoed two ordinances that were proposed by the city council. One ordinance would have removed the mayor's ability to have a full time staff, and the second ordinance would have increased compensation to the mayor and council members.
Supporters of removing the mayor's staff, including Councilman Bill Bryan, state the move is a cost-cutting measure and that no other mayor in comparable local governments has any administrative assistants.
Beresford, another supporter of the ordinance, says that the cutting of the mayor's staff would be part of an $80,000 savings plan that would be used to put 22 people back to work in the city's streets department.
"We're not against the mayor, we're trying to move this city ahead," Beresford said.
Hobgood claims that the ordinance as written fundamentally changes the system of government employed by the City of Canton and, as such, only the Georgia General Assembly can make the changes called for in the ordinance.
According to Hobgood, the City of Canton is run as a "strong mayor-weak council" governmental system. The wording of this sort of arrangement is found in the "strong mayor" model charter of the Georgia Municipal Association and is copied word-for-word in Canton's charter, according to Hobgood.
Supporting this view is former Gov. Roy Barnes, who attended Thursday's meeting and cited case law and the city's 1922 charter that establishes the mayor as the CEO of the city.
"Some of us believe we don't even have three branches of government, but Mr. Barnes pointed that out clearly," Hobgood said.
Hobgood feels that the council members that want to remove his staff are so entrenched in the business world that they do not yet understand how transparent all members of government must be.
"Government is different from private business," Hobgood said. "Public participation has to be encouraged; council members cannot go off in groups of four or five and make decisions and expect them to be enacted."
The city council voted to override the mayor's veto on the staffing issue.
Fire Services A Flash Point
This clash between the mayor and some council members can be traced to their opposing stances on fire services in Canton. Hobgood initially wanted to see the Canton Fire Department consolidated with Cherokee County Fire and Emergency Services.
Council members such as Beresford and Bryant preferred to keep the department under Canton's control, and pay for the construction of three new fire stations to held reduce the city's ISO rating.
Beresford said that the reason Hobgood wanted to consolidate with Cherokee County was so that he would not be responsible for raising taxes on citizens of Canton.
"The reality is that the citizens of Canton need a quality fire department," Beresford said. He added that, "Five council members voted against consolidating."
Beresford went on to say that when the council voted for a fire department tax outside of the senior tax exemption, meaning seniors would have to pay roughly $48 a year for the fire department, Hobgood threatened to sue if they continued on that path.
When the council voted 5-1 for the fire bond referendum, Beresford claims Hobgood, "couldn't stand that we went against his will." According to Beresford, Hobgood began a disinformation campaign that claimed seniors would lose their tax exemption.
The "Agreement"
Eventually, the two sides reached a "gentleman's agreement" on the fire issue and the staffing issue. According to Hobgood, the three tenets of the agreement he proposed were:
1) Total support for a $6 million fire services bond.
2) Mayor restricted to one administrative assistant hired and supervised by the mayor but able to work for council members on demand.
3) Hiring of an economic development director. The Main Street Supervisor Ginger Garrard would be under the development director, who would report to City Manager Scott Wood.
Hobgood said he did not hear back from council members Beresford or Bryan for a few days, until Bryan asked to meet with Hobgood on Wednesday or Thursday of last week to discuss the agreement. Hobgood said that by then his window on vetoing the removal of his staff would have expired, so he vetoed the measure to avoid losing his leverage.
"They changed the rules of the game and won't go along with the original agreement," Hobgood said. "I had to assume they backed out on the deal."
For his part, Bryan said during Thursday's meeting that claims he had backed out of a deal with Hobgood were, "a damn lie."
"The fact is that I made multiple attempts via e-mail to meet with Gene to finalize the details of the agreement," Bryan wrote in an e-mail to Patch. "He even refused to discuss it on Wednesday the 2nd when I happened to catch him in the back hallway at City Hall."
Compensation Increases Further Point of Contention
The mayor also vetoed a proposed compensation increase for all elected officials, saying that, "it was the right thing to do at this time."
"We do need to move the salaries forward but only when the economy allows us to do so," he said.
On the other side of the argument, Beresford says that despite a raise in compensation for elected officials, the increases will follow an already-approved ending of the pension plan, which should save the city $60,000 a year. The raises should cost around $40,000, which is still a net savings of $20,000 a year.
Combined with the estimated $60,000 saved by eliminating the mayor's staff, the City of Canton would have $80,000 more each year to spend on personnell and projects to help the city.
In the documentation written by the mayor explaining his decision to veto the compensation increase, he claims that if the increases are not approved, the city will save $40,000 on top of the $60,000 saved by ending the pension plan.
The mayor's veto claims this will bring a combined savings of $100,000 to the city, but this math is wrong; the city cannot save any money by keeping salaries where they are, they can only lose money by increasing the compensation.
Beresford claims this faulty math is a further example of the mayor's supposed disinformation campaign.
"The mayor says we're ripping people off. It's an art he has fined-tuned to a fare thee well."
The council voted to uphold the mayor's veto on compensation increases.
Etowah River Park Newest Battleground
This discord has boiled over into the efforts to construct the Etowah River Park, which has languished for four years. During Thursday's meeting, all bids and alternatives were discussed for the contractors who will be constructing the new park. This process was necessary for the Cherokee Board of Commissioners to know that the City of Canton had approved all bids and was ready to begin work.
Beresford planned to tackle a budget shortfall by a creative re-allocation of city funds. Under his plan, the city would pay for the installation of storm water improvements out of its own storm water budget, and the money left over from this re-allocation in the bids would go towards covering the shortfall.
"You have to put the storm water drainage into the park before you build the playground so the park doesn't erode into the river," Beresford said.
"I'm not opposed to using the storm water fund but storm water funds have been used like a piggy bank, which they shouldn't be," Hobgood said.
At the end of the Thursday meeting, when cornered and questioned by Beresford, Hobgood refused to sign the budget amendment that would have authorized the plan to shift money to pay for the construction of the park.
"He decides he's going to veto it," Beresford said. "He's going to put the project on hold to punish the council for not supporting his program."
"It's a game. It's gamesmanship," Beresford claimed.
Hobgood refutes Beresford's claim that he will veto the proposal.
"I intend to sign it, but I won't be forced into something by someone trying to take away the mayor's ability to hire an assistant," he said. "How could he expect me to be nice and do what they want me to do immediately when they turn around and try to nail me?"
Foul Language Directed at Mayor?
Beresford is alleged to have uttered foul language directed at the mayor at his refusal to immediately sign the park budget amendment. An independent viewing of the replay of the council meeting could not produce the so-called slur, but several gallery members claim to have heard Beresford's insult.
When told what he allegedly said to Hobgood, Beresford seemed taken aback and said, "there's enough good adjectives I could use on him," without having to resort to foul language.
"He isn't hurting me by not signing, he is hurting the city. It's a shame on the city."
Hobgood did not hear the alleged word either.
"Two or three people told me after we left that Beresford used an improper word," he said.
Can't We All Just Get Along?
Hobgood anticipates that the conflicts between the council and the mayor will subside slowly but surely.
"I anticipate it will eventually begin to smooth over," he said. "This is an election year, and I suspect people will be nicer to each other as election day draws closer."
The next meeting of the Canton City Council will take place on Jan. 17.
Change For Canton
10:37 am on Monday, January 7, 2013
This was just another example of how this council can not work for our city. It is very funny coming from Beresford that he was embarrassed. He was the one "mad" and out of line the entire meeting. I am embarrassed that ignorant members of our council insulted a former Governor of Georgia. Huffman was the worst. Anyway, Gov. Barnes is coming for you and you had better pay attention and research.
Jeff Brown
11:27 am on Monday, January 7, 2013
For me, this council meeting was indicative of how our City is actually being ran. It has become clear that our councilman do not read the agenda/ supporting documentation before attending these meetings. It is evidenced by the lack of knowledge displayed when things are discussed. When I first started attending council meetings, I can remember how impressed I was with a certain councilwoman...she was always prepared, well studied, and ready with questions when necessary. She did not waste time. Thank you, Pat Tanner, for that.
However, this council is relying on one or two members to conduct research for them and tell them what they should think. It was clear by the interaction between Huffman and Barnes that Huffman had no clue as to what Barnes was talking about. The council had a former Governor of the State, as well as an attorney, (who wrote the legislation) tell them their actions were not legal.....yet they still voted to take away the Mayor's powers. If and when this goes to the General Assembly...the Assembly will not support our council's decision. Yet another waste of time....time that could be used improving our City instead of destroying it. Please council, educate yourself about the job you were elected to do..
Jeff Brown
11:35 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
I should also state that I think Councilman Glen Cummins is ALWAYS prepared...as well as the Mayor. My comment above was directed at Bereford and Huffman.
Username
5:11 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013
How can any business’s or residents of Canton take our town seriously if we allow councilman Beresford to whine like a 3 year that has a soiled diaper?
Why is Beresford continuing to wet his pants? His reputation is soiled, and his future seat Depends on how well he plays nicely with others. I hope that the councilmen all take the time to watch the video and consider sending Beresford to timeout. There is no reason to publicly disrespect Governor Barnes, Mayor Hobgood, or Canton with childlike antics any more.
Please watch the replay of the City Council meeting on Jan 3rd., and be mindful when its time to vote again: http://livestre.am/4hEmB
Etowahwah
6:05 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013
I could not agree more! However, you need to add Huffman and the ring leader, Bryan, to the list of misfit councilmen! I've never seen such consistently undignified behavior from grown men, especially elected officials, in my 60+ years in this area. I cringe every time Canton is mentioned in the Atlanta news, like it was last week when these incompetents disrespected Governor Barnes. We will remember in the next election, but I hate to see what further damage they will do to our City and our reputation before then. All of the soiled diapers are going to smell a lot worse before it is over!
Jeff Brown
10:33 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013
Listen to the last words on this video...you can clearly hear Mr. Beresford call the Mayor a "bas****". Now that is a true display of decorum.
Jeff Brown
10:33 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013
http://www.livestream.com/cityofcanton/video?clipId=pla_598ce3cb-4a37-45f5-8e99-b0e810f97e45&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb
Pat Porter Gold
1:52 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
I did hear it on the tape! I actually missed it at the end of the meeting itself but was assured by someone else on the dais that he said it. How can Mr. Beresford deny saying something that was actually on tape?
Username
10:33 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013
What councilmen was it that was pushing for the storm water / park budget sign off the night of the meeting? Over, and over again... Was that Beresford?
Change For Canton
10:37 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Yes, it was. He also does not think people are smart enough to see the "bait and switch" on funding for the park. The "storm water" funds were included in the county bond money however, the bond did not include funding for the extra bridge, playground, and other "options". So in order to get these options, Beresford decided to use the storm water fund as a slush fund and say that it is paying for storm water related expenses. WELL IT IS NOT! The county was going to pay for those! Just call it what it is council....more corruption! The storm water fees should be reduced if we have this much excess!
Etowahwah
10:37 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Yes, it was Beresford. He is the one that had the idea to SWAP optional playground equipment and the bridge for stormwater costs in the base bid to allow the optional items to move forward. Local citizens and businesses have overpaid a ton of stormwater fees that are not necessary and not being used for stormwater management. The stormwater committee has proposed reducing the stormwater fees (tax) to an adequate level, but the Council has refused. Guess they just want more money to use on their pet projects whenever they exceed an estimate. No different than the administration before on the reservoir, YMCA, golf course and City Hall!
Pat Porter Gold
10:37 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Yes, it was Mr. Beresford. He just wasn't being upfront about what he was doing and why. Even after a representative from the Cherokee County Commission explained what was happening, he still tried to turn it around. What not just be honest about it?
Kerry Walker
1:26 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
I have a BET in Architectural Design and I found land at the corner of the Etowah River and Lake Allatoona to build my dream home. I had no idea that I was building my dream home in one of the most corrupt and backwards towns in the south!!
Change For Canton
10:37 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Kerry....I am sorry to hear that. I am sure many people in Laurel Canyon, Great Sky, and River Green feel the same. We need to get these clowns out of office.
Pat Porter Gold
11:35 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Don't give up on us, Kerry. We will ultimately turn this around. Canton is a wonderful town and a great place to live and work. I'm a transplant myself and I love it here. We just need to do some house cleaning every now and then.
hope
5:11 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Embarrassing indeed! Do you hear the sound of your property values being flushed down the toilet? I do. I'm with Kerry on this one. I just wish I could sell my house. But anyone with a brain who Googles Canton will figure out pretty quickly to purchase a home elsewhere. And...I didn't know bas**** was considered "foul language". Although his statement was probably something to be said behind closed doors, I don't disagree with what he said.
Jeff Brown
6:01 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
"Bas****" is considered profanity according to http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity...
hope
11:37 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Pulled directly from your Wikipedia link: "Different words can be profanity to different people, and what words are thought of as profanity in English can change over time. Whether a word is a profanity will always depend on the way people think. Some people will be offended by something, while others will not be."
It's 2013...and in my world...it's not profanity. Doesn't mean I'm right...just sayin'.
Change For Canton
12:08 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
The tone and use would confirm this to be profanity.....in 1800 or 2013 it is the same. That word could never be used as a compliment and in this context...it was quite derogatory. Please don't try to cover for an inept and uncouth councilman.
Jeff Brown
12:08 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
In my world..and most others...it would be considered rude. Would you advocate children using this word. If not, then it IS indeed profanity. If so...I am worried.
Change For Canton
1:32 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Hope- Do you let your son use that language?
hope
1:56 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Jeff..."rude" and "profane" are two different things. And if you look at my first post, I said that it should have been said behind closed doors (if he was that passionate about it). Was it profane in 2009 when movie trailers were played on tv promoting the latest Tarantino film? Did you run and cover your kids eys and ears when the commercial played? Give me a break.
Change...I'm not covering for anyone, I could seriously care less. I've spent time at Council meetings and wasted time with the Mayor. Canton is backwoods and SLOW, it will always be this way (insert the sound of banjos playing here). And yes, I own property in the City, and yes I pay City taxes.
Go ahead, be worried.
Pat Porter Gold
11:54 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Seriously? In my world, and in the world of most clear thinking people, that word would fall under the foul language and profanity category. Mr. Beresford certainly seemed to mean it that way. It wasn't meant as a compliment ,and considering the definition of the word, nobody would take it as one.
Etowahwah
1:32 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
"Hope", apparently does not consider many things to be sacred. After all, wasn't she the one that was urging Bill Bryan to dissolve the City of Canton? That explains a lot...
Username
11:12 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
The city council meetings should be ran with professionalism. It reflects poorly on our City Council. Breasford should be suspended for his actions.
As for the other comments that Canton is backwards, backwoods and slow.... Yeah, maybe if you visit the local WalMart. But frankly I find these comments insulting and believe your running in the wrong circles... In comparison to other cities OTP of Atlanta you will find just as many if not more affluent, successful, well educated, and very passionate people that want to see change for the better for Canton.
If you don't like it and are so much better then pack your bags. What, you can't sell your home? Well you shouldnt have bought into Canton before the real estate boom and the commercialism was allowed into Canton in the first place...
The arguing needs to stop and to turn this around our elected officials need to demonstrate vision and progress to win back our residents confidence. Since that seems doubtful and may require divine intervention, the heart of Canton should devise a plan to educate the rest of our residents so we can clean house.
Maybe we can organize our own task force using the resources and facilities at our disposal. At the end of the day, we need to stick together since the councilmen are occupied with stealing the spotlight while challenging our governments structure.
hope
11:33 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Do you think a reference to my son intimidates me? It doesn't.
My children have been taught this specific word is biblical yet sometimes disrespectful. They are taught to choose their words wisely and that some words, when spoken, can't be taken back. If they chose to refer to Canton’s illustrious Mayor as one...well...if the shoe fits wear it, and if the truth hurts, bear it.
I didn't buy during the real estate boom, for your information. You’re also assuming I still live in the city of Canton as well. You realize people can own more than one piece of property...right?
I would love to move to Canton! The leadership group is forward thinking and amazing. The thriving downtown historic district is so vibrant and full of life. Said no one, ever.
Change For Canton
11:43 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I am glad you are looking for an exit plan from Canton Hope..Sounds like you need less stress in your life and another city could certainly use your positive influence.