BOE Chair Mike Chapman Attacks Fellow Board Member
The county's longest serving school board member criticizes fellow member Michael Geist for allegedly violating board policy.
Not the one to shy away from controversy, Cherokee School Board Chairman Mike Chapman criticized fellow board member and charter school supporter Michael Geist for what he referred to as Geist's violation of school board policies.
Chapman, who decided not to seek re-election after he was reapportioned out of his current post by the Georgia legislature, said it was "imperative" to point out Geist's actions, which Chapman said "disturbs me greatly."
"Mr. Geist, as I move off the board I feel it imperative that I and fellow board members confront you on your actions as a member of this board," he said. "I raise this issue strictly with the desire to prevent our system from moving back into the past which could very well put our accreditation in question."
Chapman was referencing a time when the school district was placed on accreditation probation by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, or SACS. Chapman noted school board at the time "had a few members who willfully exhibited inappropriate and unethical behavior."
Chapman accuses Geist of violating board policies by undermining Superintendent of Schools Dr. Frank Petruzielo. He noted in an opinion written by Geist labeled The Charter School Debate made "false claims" that the school district's Cherokee Academies initiative should be attributed to competition and the opening of Cherokee Charter Academy.
"The notion of “competition” from CCA is illogical, as CCA in the past school year offered no unique programs when compared with school district schools," Chapman added.
Chapman, who lives in Canton, also accused Geist of:
- violating school board policy calling for board members to advocate and for the "educational welfare of children attending schools within the school system" by speaking in support of the proposed charter school amendment on the Nov. 6 ballot.
- violated board policy, which mandates board members to "render all decisions based on available facts and his or her independent judgment and refuse to surrender his or her judgment to individuals or special interest groups."
- violated board policy, which calls for board members to express opinions on items before the board takes action, but stand behind board decisions after a vote is taken.
"While your children attend CCA, it is your role as a Cherokee County School Board member, according to board policy, to have greater concern for the school district’s schools than for CCA," Chapman said.
The "most egregious violation" Chapman said Geist committed occurred when he allegedly attended a Cherokee Citizens For The Kids (CCFTK) meeting in April with the "intention of swaying opinions and bullying the attendees regarding the charter school issue."
Chapman accused Geist of asking CCFTK members who their employers were and while he "had no concern who the employers of the other members attending." That, he said, could be construed as Geist "overstepping" his role as a school board member.
Chapman noted SACS at any time can place districts on probation if its school board members interfere with school administration and operations. He added he hopes Geist would consider his actions "as they relate to your sworn duty as a member of this board."
Chapman also requested Geist to bring forth answers to questions he had about Cherokee Charter, including if they would be more aggressive in recruiting low income families, why the school has a waiting list, if the school can be deemed a "choice" for parents if they can't provide transportation and other questions relating to the school's finances as well as how students with special needs are served at the school.
Chapman's comments received some applause from a few members of the audience.
While Geist did say he was not "prepared" to respond fully to Chapman's comments, he did take a moment to denounce Chapman's assertions.
“My enthusiasm and support for choice and for charter schools comes not from how it impacts individual students or the students attending CCA," he said. "It’s what I think it can do for the students in Cherokee County and in our system.”
Geist also criticized Chapman for coming to the conclusion that Cherokee Charter Academy supporters have labeled the school district as not caring about students.
"It seems to me that you haven’t hesitated in your comments tonight to draw that conclusion and characterize my actions as not caring about the kids in Cherokee County and the kids of our school system," he said.
Geist also pointed to past actions by the board, noting that it "appears" that some of the issues taken up by the board appear to be for "political reasons rather than what's best for the children."
Geist went on to imply that Chapman's comments were politically motivated, adding he wonders if Chapman's comments "have more to do with your concern about my actions and impact to the school system as opposed to the potential impact of (the) publicity and discussion...on next week's election, specifically on Amendment 1."
Geist was referring to the constitutional amendment voters will consider on Nov. 6, which would create a separate entity that would approve charter schools at the state level.
“I think our focus needs to be less on the politics and more on the welfare of the children," he added.
Geist on Friday afternoon elaborated on his feelings about Chapman's comments. He repeated his stance that they were politically motivated.
"The timing of this, I think, suggests that it might be about (gaining) a political advantage in the charter school debate,” he said. "I think it’s unfortunate that we are using the school board as a place to have this debate.”
He also said his "differences in political opinions" with Petruzielo does not amount to undermining the superintendent's authority.
He said the "political" back and forth has become a distraction "when our business should be focused on other things."
"When we are spending time and energy on a political question that is at the state level, we are taking energy from other activities," he added.
Geist also noted nothing Chapman mentioned about the April CCFTK meeting was "remotely true."
He noted he was in a discussion with stakeholders, parents and employees of both Cherokee Charter and the school district and innocently asked where those in the group were employed in an effort to start a discussion, which he said was designed to "mend fences" between both organizations.
Geist also said will have a more thorough response to Chapman's statements by the Dec. 6 meeting and noted he hopes others who heard the school board chair's comments would “reserve judgment until they hear my response.”
While the other four school board members remained silent during the exchange, School Board Vice Chair Janet Read weighed in on Geist's remarks. Read, who lives in Towne Lake, noted she "takes offense" at Geist's characterization of the board's motive on certain actions as being political in nature.
"I can say as a board member for last 8 years, my decisions are based on what’s best for the children,” she added.
D Howe
4:54 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
I lost all respect for Mr. Chapman last year. I will attend the Nov 6th meeting to hear both sides of the story. I am concerned that other school board members have not commented. This seems like a witch hunt. I will assume Mr. Geist is innocent until proven guilty.
Monty Brewster
7:51 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Can't wait to hear Mr. Geist's rebuttal. I wonder if Chip Rogers will write it for him.
Kelly Anfuso
5:50 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
This coming from a man, a school board member telling the citizens of Cherokee County to move if they do not like the schools.
It is nothing more than sour grapes from a man without a district.
Mr. Chapman, the school my daughter is districted to attend is one of the worst in the county (per the Governors report card). Why am I forced to send her there? Why am I not allowed the CHOICE to offer a quality education?
I have been a parent of school age children in Cherokee County since 1989. In all these years Cherokee County never approved an alternative to the tradional public school you currently offer. It was not until CCA opened it's doors (against your wishes) and it wasz proven to you that parents in this county want "CHOICE" that you opened the Academines. Please check your board notes over the years if that slipped your mind. Timing is everything.
Mr. Chapman, it appears that your peers "have nothing against CCS", at least that is what they are blogging on countywide blogs. Maybe you should take your own advice and move.
Susan L.
12:40 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Ms. Anfuso, children in Cherokee County do have options to attend other elementary schools, if they are not happy with the school in their district, as long as the school of their choice is not overcrowded. Seems only fair, doesn't it? Also, you need to do your research on the Academines (sic). These have been in the works for years. And CCSD has definitely had "alternatives to the traditional public schools" for years as well -- you really need to do your homework!!
Stevie Nicks
8:52 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
This seem like an attack on the messenger, Mr. Chapman, because you can not defend Mr. Geist's actions as a CCSD Board member. What if a member of CCA Board continutley spoke out against charter schools and promoted traditional schools? Geist has not done the job he was elected to do.
Steely Dan
10:22 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Actually, Geist is doing the job he was elected to do: Represent his constituents. Given the recent primary results, at least half the county favors school choice. School Choice is a plank of the GOP platform.
Really, the question is...if Chapman and Read claim to be Republicans, why do they hate such a major plank of the GOP platform so much? Why does Mike Chapman hate charter school children and the education they're receiving so much? He's obviously on a personal vendetta here and is just a petulant little whiner on his way off the board, thank goodness.
And why does Chapman get away with letting a private citizen (someone named Kanoop?) address Michael Geist directly a few months ago over charter schools? This is a direct violation of Board Policy.
If the board chair can ignore board policy, he's a hypocrite to try and attack another board member for alleged violations as well. The good news is that this petulant little man will soon be leaving.
Monty Brewster
7:48 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Does half the county live in Bridge Mill now? Is that why more than 60% voted for Janet Read over the other joker? There was only one person that heavily favors "choice" that won, and that was by 24 votes (50.01% to 49.99%), and that is only to serve one post (the one centered around CCA...duh). And their voting record shows they are not in line with the GOP platform... Obama in 2008? Really? And the Republican Party of Cherokee County supports this person?
This just shows that its not about principles, core values, or beliefs with you "Yes people", its about "the agenda". Geist has been far too busy with CCA to even know what is going on in CCSD. If anything, he is going to get CCSD in trouble with SACS. Now he's out emailing CCSD parents to vote for the amendment? Is his goal to get CCSD to lose accreditation?
Steely Dan
8:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Monty, Patsy Jordan's district was basically a 50% toss up too.
And where can one view who voted for whom? When I've researched voter records, I can only see whether or not someone participated in an election, not who that person voted for.
I recall from watching the debates on the Patch that Marlow's opponent was a union member and an abortionist (speaking of crapping on GOP values!) but I didn't find anything that indicated who any candidate actually cast a vote for in any election.
Or are you just making stuff up again, Monty?
Bottom line: The superintendent's angry balding puppet Chapman is soon to be gone! Though he'll be replaced by the sycophantic Read...but at least she's got all her hair. LOL
Monty Brewster
10:05 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
The Cromer/Kelly! post was much much closer. There are still discrepancies that were never resolved with that post. A lot of voters complaining that their ballots were wrong. Wonder if that was on purpose? Hmmmm...
Debbie Harry
5:30 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
At least we've got Janet Read, with her common sense approach and her history of looking out for all the children in Cherokee County. Definitely a better choice than that bozo Dukes who tried again and failed.
Steely Dan
5:58 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Debbie, I agree - Read cannot possibly be worse than bottom-of-the-barrel Chapman. I hope Read stops hating charter school children & their parents the way Chapman does.
Debbie Harry
6:26 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Steely, I know that Janet will do a great job. She's done a great job for years and she was by FAR the best candidate in this summer's race. I'm sad to see Chapman go. I think he has been a terrific board member. I'm still angry at our local legislative delegation for drawing him out of his post. It was shameful retaliation. Glad that Jordan will be on the board. Definitely think Cromer was the better candidate in that race. I agree with Monty. I think Marlow will have SACS looking over our business sooner than later. She and Geist care about 1000 kids, not the 39,000 kids.
Steely Dan
9:36 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Monty, I need to correct myself. I apologize - I was wrong when I said half the county wants school choice.
The results are in and it's more like 60% of the county. Statewide, 600,000 more people favor School Choice than the failed status quo.
Thank god that dinosaur Chapman is leaving. Let's hope the super either follows him or gets on-board with School Choice.
And let this be a friendly reminder to the other School Board members up for re-election over the next few years: Ignore School Choice at your electoral peril. The people have spoken - 60% of the county favors more educational choices for parents and their kids. Geist being at the forefront of this movement bodes well for his re-election.
Phil McCall
12:40 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Mr. Chapman continues to demonstrate by his action that the status quo is acceptable.
Monty Brewster
7:55 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
So you believe it is acceptable to completely ignore the people and schools that he is elected to represent?
Phil McCall
8:44 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Dear Monty - Until this election when board members represent a defined post, all the board members were elected to represent ALL of us in the County. To answer your question directly - I believe Chapman completely ignored the people and schools he found unacceptable to his narrow views. Chapman chose status quo which is not representing the majority of our citizens.
Addie Price
12:40 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
As far as undermining the superintendent, some people need to remember that he is employed by the school board and therefore should answer to them and not the other way around.
For Read and Chapman to say this wasn't politically motivated then why is he bringing up items that were claimed to have happened several months ago?
Like Mr. Geist said it's time to quit playing around and get down to business to make a difference in the lives of the children whom the parents have entrusted this board with.
Stevie Nicks
5:39 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Addie...two of the most egregious offenses happened in the last month. He spoke out against the board decisions at Freedom School and he attended a pro rally last Saturday.
Monty Brewster
8:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
And then emailed CCSD parents to vote for the amendment last night using directories from CCSD schools... not politically motivated?
Steely Dan
8:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
He used CCSD school directories???
Wow - so he's doing exactly what our superintendent does, using public facilities to campaign for a specific political agenda?
What's good for the goose is good for the gander!
When in Rome, do as the Romans!
Fight fire with fire!
If Dr. P can do it, so can Geist. I've got no problems with this whatsoever.
Monty Brewster
10:00 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I have yet to see any proof of a Dr. P email. Didn't the guy that Janet Read beat say he was going to share those back in June? But still nothing...
mfecope@gmail.com
12:40 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Mr Chapman, I'm going to use your words. If you don't like it move! Mr Geist is in my district and I am very pleased with the work he has done on behalf of my child in Cherokee county. If you want to talk about misdeeds how about you voting on a contract that you hasn't read. Forcing a contract through for your buddy Dr P. How about Dr P. Sending out political emails threatening teachers with their jobs amonst other things. Now that might draw Sachs eyes to Cherokee county. Mr. Geist has don't nothing but stand up for the rights of the innocent children in our county. He is fighting against those with only power on their minds. I would think it criminal for him not to stand up for the children. That is why he is there and what I elected him to do. The BOE is on a witch hunt now because you see the citizens of Cherokee county want more. Yes, without Cherokee charter there would be no STEM. True Cherokee charter doesn't have transportation but apparently if you look at the waiting list people do not care. I am a single mom and part of the under privilege you ve thrown out there. I will move heaven and earth to get my child there! The only way out of poverty is a great education and she is getting that now.
Monty Brewster
8:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
So it is okay to use people's words out of context?
Steely Dan
8:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
It's OK to use people's exact quotes, even though Chapman only says what Petruzielo's string-pulling makes his mouth say. Guy's not had an original thought in years. He's just a Dr. P mouthpiece in need of a hairpiece.
Monty Brewster
10:00 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Then use it in its full content... He said (and I'm paraphrasing) that if you don't like it you can move, you can home school, you could go to a private school... but most people can't afford or just unable to do those options. However, that is what you "yes-people" missed out on as you were focused on anything that would make him look bad. He's a brilliant guy and is there for the community. He's been here since Cherokee was at the brink of losing accreditation, and not it looks like he'll be leaving just before we actually do lose accreditation at the hands of meddling board members.
Jennifer Kent
12:40 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
If we put politics aside and simply think what is best for the children, the answer is simple. Children are different. Children learn differently. Children need different styles and methods of learning. Learning is not one size fits all. If we give children and their parents a choice, we empower them-the children-NOT beurocrats. This debate is about power, control, and money. It SHOULD be about what is best for CHILDREN. Mr. Chapman is more concerned with playing politics than what is best for our future. Mr. Geist is on the side of the children and parents.
Monty Brewster
8:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Mr. Chapman is looking out for the majority of Cherokee children. Geist is only looking out for about 2%. Are you trying to argue for all the children, or just all the children at CCA?
If you want all children to be successful, then go shout at Chip Rogers to fully fund ALL educational avenues.
Steely Dan
8:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Mike Chapman is looking out for what Dr. P tells him to look out for. Dr. P doesn't have the courage to attack Geist in public so he sent his lame-duck loser soon-to-be-ex chairman after him.
Monty Brewster
10:00 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
At least he wasn't too busy looking at Forsyth. He's been focused on Cherokee and will continue to be a very helpful community member, unlike his haters which only like to complain about living in one of the best school districts.
Steely Dan
11:08 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Actually, Chapman's a complete roadblock to any educational reform to the half of Cherokee County that is pro-parental choice (if not more than half).
The man's an educational dinosaur. His time is mercifully up. Can't wait to see him leave. He's a millstone around the neck of educational reform and progress.
Kim Jones
12:40 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Is Mr. Chapman for real? He sure seems to be happy with status quo.
I have never seen Mr. Geist exhibit inappropriate or unethical behavior. He is nothing more than a kind-hearted man that wants to give families in Cherokee County a choice.
Competition is a good thing. Perhaps this is what some members on the school board and Dr. P are afraid of.
Monty Brewster
8:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Then you've been in the dark. He's bullied teachers, ignored his duty for CCSD schools, used school directories to email CCSD parents to vote for this amendment.... well, you can watch the video on CCSD website of the board meeting.
Steely Dan
8:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
If he's ignoring schools, when is he bullying teachers (since that would require paying attention to schools)?
There you go again, Monty - making stuff up!
Chapman's just jealous because Geist has the ability to come up with an independent thought. Every time Chapman gets that urge, he feels that YANK in his back from Puppet Master P telling him what to think & say!!
Monty Brewster
10:05 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Speaking of puppets... have you pulled "The Winner's" hand out of your backside? Or are these his words you're typing?
Steely Dan
11:09 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Monty, you let me know when you've got something to say that isn't being piped to you directly from Dr P's office, probably using taxpayer-funded facilities.
Monty Brewster
11:44 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I'm sorry, but I can't give credit to anyone but myself for my words. As I've mentioned before, I've never had a conversation with Dr. P, let alone been instructed on what to say. If you think that I am being led by CCSD's leaders as to what I am to say, then I must be on the right track. I appreciate your affirmation.
Steely Dan
6:01 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Monty, you need to re-examine the definition of the word 'leader'. The only thing Dr. P leads is the queue at the buffet line.
Frank Jones
12:40 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Kelly...Just because a school may not be an overall top school, it doesn't mean that the school doesn't educate the top students as well as any other traditional, charter or private school. It may simply mean that the school has a higher % of students from lower socio-economic families with lower historical education. The top students will continue to have the opportunity to excel.
FWIW...I have a cousin who opted to attend a "black" college on a full academic scholarship. The third/fourth tier university provided him a quality education, two-master degrees, and he graduated magna or summa cum laude. More importantly, he received an educated that allowed him to rise through the ranks of IBM to run the worldwide operations of one of their divisions.
Just because the school isn't "tops" doesn't mean that ALL students receive a substandard education.
Frank Jones
12:40 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
D Howe...You've lost respect for Mr. Geist and that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that Mr. Geist is and was doing his job and that he cares about the CCSD district and students. My opinion is that he speaks his mind and votes his beliefs. My opinion is also that Chip Rogers and his cronies were threatened by this "RINO" and ganged up to punish him.
Republicans talk about Chicago politics being corrupt. Georgia is no better and probably worse.
hope
10:10 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
It's cool...show your true crotchety colors on your way out Chapman. You're still on your way out. Thank God.
Monty Brewster
8:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Yeah... and Marlow will surely be a great addition. I'll give her 6 months before SACS comes a callin'... If the agenda is to have CCSD fail... then... well... you've done a great job.
hope
6:13 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I look forward to the drama Marlow will bring to the table. Bravo TV has cameras ready to roll. The trashier the better. Cherokee County never disappoints!
Gerald H
8:52 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
What the charter school advocates need to understand is that the Cherokee school system is superior to all systems around us and is managed very well. The CCA adds nothing to the system. In fact, it is a distraction from the quality aspect. In Cherokee, the CCA is redundant and is simply tonic for the "choice" crowd. Unfortunately, the "choice" thinks its the difference between success or failure. That is absurd. The best thing for Cherokee County residents and their property values and their children iis for the charter schools to go away.
Steely Dan
10:22 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Actually, since the district is taking the property tax of charter parents and not using it to educate charter children, the district completely wins by having the charter school here.
Not that the district was apparently doing very much to educate those 1000+ kids prior to the charter school. But now, that's 1000 less kids that the traditional schools have to educate, even though the district is just pocketing those 1000s of parents' property tax.
If the charter school closes, the public schools will continue to fail to educate those kids, the schools will have to absorb 1000 kids, and those parents will likely face angry, vindictive teachers. It's a lose-lose situation, not that our hero superintendent cares.
Monty Brewster
8:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Actually, the district is losing more money through sharing than they would get from all the charter parents (how do we know this isn't going to the charters?). Combine that with the failure of our legislators to fund CCSD correctly and the district is losing big time. And now, if this silly amendment passes, all districts will lose even more so our "bought-and-paid-for" legislators can please their campaign contributors from "Big Education" corporations. Shame shame shame... just another reason our state is the lowest ranked state in the US in ethics. If you take the inverse of that we are the best at being corrupt.
Steely Dan
11:11 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Wrong as usual, Monty.
CCSD takes charter parent property tax and spends it on non-charter students. Charter parents aren't having a dime of their local $$$ used to actually educate their children.
The district is making out like bandits by taking charter kids' money and not spending it on education of charter kids. District is a big winner here. Charter parents are the losers, though their children win since the charter school does a better job of education than the district is doing.
Monty Brewster
11:50 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Prove it. Show me where the money that is supposed to be going to the district schools (austerity cuts) is not going to charters. Show me that the 25% of the county education taxes that the state takes from Cherokee is not going to any charter schools. Where does the money go? Where do charters get their money? How is the state able to increase funding for charters, while cutting funding to districts? It's very simple to see what is happening here regardless of a loop-hole law created by corrupt politicians to take district funding and hand it over to charters all the while pointing back at 797 and saying... "no local money is being taken from public schools." That is absolute bull snot.
Steely Dan
6:02 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Monty, not a dime of Cherokee County property tax goes to the charter school, since the local board didn't approve it. That's the law.
Monty Brewster
8:48 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
QBE is the law, too. But that hasn't been followed in years. This is just another reason why our state is at the bottom of the barrel in ethics.
Stevie Nicks
8:52 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
While Chapman's words are harsh...all of the things he accused Geist of doing are actually TRUE. Geist was elected to represent CCSD...not CCA. He should be doing the job he was sworn in to do. He has gone about his self titled liason role completely wrong!! Charter schools may have merti but do you have to put down and belittel the TPSs in the process. Geist should resign and get on the board at CCA. He gets a stipend from CCSD (taxpayer money) to do a job that he was elected to do which is help set policy for CCSD...he has not done that..he has promoted school choice and charter schools at the expense of some very goood TPSs...he has got to GO!!
Steely Dan
4:00 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Geist was elected to represent PARENTS and TAXPAYERS. Not the CCSD. Since over half the county is pro-parental-choice, Geist is actually doing his job. As usual, it is the petty, vindictive, petulant, small-minded, archaic Mike Chapman who is derelict in both his opinion AND his ability to do his job properly. He constantly violates board policy and is a disgrace of a board member. Janet Read cannot take the reigns quickly enough, though let's hope she can keep her obvious bias against charter school children at bay long enough to do her job properly.
The fact that you think people are elected to represent the board rather than those who voted for them speaks volumes on the huge disconnect between the stagnant, minority status-quo crowd and those who desire real educational change & improvement for all of the county's children.
Monty Brewster
8:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
He's not representing the parents or taxpayers. He's been bought out by Chip Rogers and CCA. He isn't looking out for the best interests of the children in the district. Mike Chapman even gave Geist an entire month to answer his questions. How is that archaic?
Stevie Nicks
5:39 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
When he was running did he tell the parents that he would not support CCSD schools? Howmany time have you heard him speak of anything positive about CCSD? How many school functions has he attended at CCSD schools? he is so quick to look at what CCSD does wrong that sometimes he forgets that CCSD does a ton right. Juxstapose that against Geist attending charter school rallys where he is identified as a CCSD school board member. Is that what the taxpayers elected him to do? campaign for charter schools?
How do you get that over half the county is pro-parental-choice? While there maybe many parents who support school choice, the do not do it at the expense of quality public schools.
He took an oath of office. Did he say he would uphold the values of CCSD? did he read and sign the ethics policy? School board members are the only elected officials to have to under go mandatory training. School board members are the only elected officials to sign the ethics document.
GEIST SHOULD RESIGN.
VOTE NO ON AMENDMENT 1!!
Steely Dan
7:48 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Half the county's voters voted for parental-choice candidates in the August primary.
I don't see what the problem is with Geist supporting the charter academy. Cherokee county taxpayers send their kids there - they deserve representation too.
Again, Geist wasn't elected to represent the board. He was elected to represent his constituents. Since some attend the charter school, he needs to be their rep too.
Geist is not the superintendent nor Chapman's puppet. If anything, the superintendent is a paid contractor and should be the puppet of all Cherokee County citizens.
Monty Brewster
8:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Half? Can you provide those numbers please? (and then refer to the above post that address your inaccurate, misleading post)
No More Bullies
10:30 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Geist was NOT elected to represent constituents. SB84, authored by your very own Chip Rogers and signed into law, states: Given the specialized nature and unique role of membership on a local board of education, this elected office should be characterized and treated differently from other elected offices where the primary duty is independently to represent constituent views. Local board of education members should abide by a code of conduct and conflict of interest policy modeled for their unique roles and responsibilities. And although there are many measures of the success of a local board of education, one is clearly essential: maintaining accreditation and the opportunities it allows the school system's students."
The SCHOOL SYSTEM'S STUDENTS. Not those who CHOOSE other education options-- private school, home school or charter school. That is the law (as written by Chip).
Steely Dan
11:12 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Wrong. Candidates are elected to represent the taxpayers.
They ARE NOT elected to be Dr. P's puppets, which is all the BOE is right now.
No More Bullies
11:25 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
The law says school board members do not serve constituents like other elected officials. So, the law is wrong?
Steely Dan
6:03 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Last I checked, Mr. Geist has the same First Amendment rights as the rest of us. If he wants to campaign for the Parental Choice crowd, I'm all for it. Esp. since union members have campaigned for the NO crowd on taxpayer facilities.
Debbie Harry
6:59 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Steely Dan, how can you argue with state law? Are you really that stupid?
Debbie Harry
7:06 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Geist himself has said many times that his only role at CCA is "just a parent." Now, if you believe that, I have a swamp to sell you. However, by his own words, he DOES NOT and SHOULD NOT represent CCA. He has so many ethical violations it's amazing. He continues to demonstrate that he doesn't care about CCSD students. Not. One. Bit.
Steely Dan
7:19 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Debbie, if the charter haters can openly campaign on public taxpayer property, so can Geist.
MP
2:26 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Oh no, no, no, no, no. Mr. Geist (as the courts have said twice now), has his own "First Amendment Rights," and therefore, he may advocate for or against based on his conscience and what he feels is best for children. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Suck it up, Chapman!
Robert
3:06 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Out of one side of his mouth, Mr. Chapman accuses Mr. Geist of improperly advocating for the Charter School initiative while serving on the CCSB. Then out of the other side of his mouth, Mr. Chapman demands that Mr. Geist answer on behalf of Charter Schools as to why the Charter Schools don't recruit low income kids more aggressively, provide transportation to and from the schools, and defend the existence of a waiting list! I would call this political grand standing by Mr. Chapman, but it hardly rises to the level of incompetent moaning.
Steely Dan
6:04 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Chapman's middle name is "Incompetent" - it's a little-known fact.
Debbie Harry
7:01 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Chapman was 100% correct in what he called Geist out on. Geist deserved every word. And Steely, I've only read a few things so far, but I am so over your insults and avoidance of the truth. You contribute nothing to the discussion.
Steely Dan
7:22 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Thanks for continuing to read my posts, Debbie! Regardless of how 'over' you are of me, Mike Chapman's Reign of Error will soon be "over" too. For good.
good riddance!
Mike payne
5:39 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
School choice is here once again good triumphs over bad. Dr. P you and Janet are so far in the minority it would be appreciated it you would both step back and take notice of the Cherokee County totals on Amendment 1. You never have and I doubt ever will speak for the majority. We are going to have to do what FL did and that is drag Dr. P out of office kicking and screaming. Now on to the next fight, let’s get the local funds flowing to the Charter School as well, full voucher system. We have got to save the rest of the kids trapped in schools their parents do not want them in.